Nearly six years ago Walmart sent 500 shelf-scanning robots home after concluding that workers picking online orders could see the
Conversations On Retail
July 20, 2026
When former venture capitalist Robert von Goeben set out to make children’s toys from recycled materials in the U.S., few thought it could work. Yet from a garage in California, he and his partner built Green Toys—a pioneering, profitable brand that proved sustainability and smart business can go hand in hand.
In this candid conversation with Ian Coats MacColl (Founder, icm.studio), Robert shares how he turned early failures into breakthroughs, scaled production during a recession, and stayed true to his mission even when mass retailers came calling. From declining Walmart seven times to mastering the financial realities of scaling a consumer products company, his story offers hard-earned lessons for founders and innovators alike.
This episode explores what it really takes to build—and eventually exit—a purpose-driven brand rooted in design simplicity, financial discipline, and integrity.
What You’ll Learn